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Re: How are we going to conduct wars
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2016, 10:30:00 pm »
Quote from: Gran Colombia on January 05, 2016, 10:22:36 pm
Quote from: Fascist States of America on January 05, 2016, 06:38:02 pm
Maybe if Burdina was on... But otherwise true

First off I have a spreadsheet second off no need to violate.

Spreadsheet =/= Military
PBA still has to decide how militaries work, give him time.
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Re: How are we going to conduct wars
« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2016, 11:35:04 pm »
Maybe war needs no consent, but should assassinations of public figures, bombings, revolutions, etc, need it? It would balance out both sides.
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Re: How are we going to conduct wars
« Reply #17 on: January 06, 2016, 02:33:26 am »
Well I can tell you I would be totally pissed off if someone else started an RP featuring a revolution in my country. If you do that you are messing with a lot of work and research I've done for my nation.

Here is what I was going to propose.

  • No consent for war
  • A nation may not be totally removed from the map via war however. Perhaps put a limit on it of a nation can only be reduced to half the size of its original claim?

I feel we need to consider limiting total expansion into unclaimed areas somehow. We once had an issue where most of the map had been gobbled up by existing members and there was virtually no room for new ones.

NSTracker is back up and is a lot easier to use than those spreadsheets were.
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Re: How are we going to conduct wars
« Reply #18 on: January 06, 2016, 07:03:23 am »
But what about small nations like me? Maybe if I lose a war to someone, I turn into a state?
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Re: How are we going to conduct wars
« Reply #19 on: January 06, 2016, 10:52:07 am »
Quote from: The United Kingdom of Portugal, Brazil, and the Algarves on January 06, 2016, 02:33:26 am
Well I can tell you I would be totally pissed off if someone else started an RP featuring a revolution in my country. If you do that you are messing with a lot of work and research I've done for my nation.

Here is what I was going to propose.

  • No consent for war
  • A nation may not be totally removed from the map via war however. Perhaps put a limit on it of a nation can only be reduced to half the size of its original claim?

I feel we need to consider limiting total expansion into unclaimed areas somehow. We once had an issue where most of the map had been gobbled up by existing members and there was virtually no room for new ones.

NSTracker is back up and is a lot easier to use than those spreadsheets were.
So would we need consent for revolutions, bombings, and assassinations?
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Re: How are we going to conduct wars
« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2016, 02:28:33 pm »
Quote from: Bavaria on January 06, 2016, 07:03:23 am
But what about small nations like me? Maybe if I lose a war to someone, I turn into a state?
Maybe if a country is totally conquered  they become a resistant or something like that but only in their former country area? they can not every be totally destroyed.
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Re: How are we going to conduct wars
« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2016, 03:29:55 pm »
Eventually we are going to need to establish some form of "regional government" if only just to keep me from eventually telling everyone to just bugger off and leave me alone because of having to handle everything.  ;D

The right to participate in that government will probably be based on citizenship in the region which will probably be based on a nation's/member's map claim.

If a nation has no map claim then they won't be able to vote, run for office, etc because they are no longer a citizen.
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Re: How are we going to conduct wars
« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2016, 03:48:45 pm »
seems fair.
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Re: How are we going to conduct wars
« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2016, 04:26:10 pm »
I want everyone who is in the region to be able to participate. Try and put yourself in the position of someone who isn't really interested in military RP but finds, say, the diplomatic RP more fun. They get attacked by a neighbor and because we are saying they must participate they lose their whole claim. So now not only is their nation essentially lost because of an RP they didn't really want to participate in but now they are prohibited from participating in regional activities that have nothing to do with RP. So there needs to be a limit to how much of their claim a nation can lose.
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Re: How are we going to conduct wars
« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2016, 05:09:06 pm »
Quote from: The United Kingdom of Portugal, Brazil, and the Algarves on January 06, 2016, 04:26:10 pm
I want everyone who is in the region to be able to participate. Try and put yourself in the position of someone who isn't really interested in military RP but finds, say, the diplomatic RP more fun. They get attacked by a neighbor and because we are saying they must participate they lose their whole claim. So now not only is their nation essentially lost because of an RP they didn't really want to participate in but now they are prohibited from participating in regional activities that have nothing to do with RP. So there needs to be a limit to how much of their claim a nation can lose.

I think it's unfair for someone to permanently lose their entire claim, but I also think it's entirely unrealistic for the victor in a conflict to be prohibited from taking land from the loser. After all, a lot of wars are fought over just that, land. We could remedy this by limiting the amount of land the victor is allowed to take from the loser. Say, for example, a quarter of the loser's land is the maximum that the victor is allowed to take, or something else along those lines.
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Re: How are we going to conduct wars
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2016, 09:07:02 pm »
Wars are not as common as you would think, people dont just declare war for no reason, and when they do others usually defend them.
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Re: How are we going to conduct wars
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2016, 12:59:22 am »
Quote from: Lesser German States on January 06, 2016, 09:07:02 pm
Wars are not as common as you would think, people dont just declare war for no reason, and when they do others usually defend them.

I'm not trying to say anyone I know from the past in this region is a war mongerer. And perhaps my views have been colored by experiences in other regions. But what I'm trying to do is arrive at something that is fair and equitable to both sides of the argument and allows the loser to keep participating in the region, even if they are perhaps reduced to a  Luxembourg, Andorra, or San Marino. We can't control who will respond to a recruiting telegram and someday, eventually, that bad apple is bound to show up.
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Re: How are we going to conduct wars
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2016, 01:27:48 am »
Cant these things be solved with RP? that is the best way in my opinion, rules should be the final failsafe. If a warmonger joins logically people would unite against him.

P.S. who is your host? im having serious issues with mine rn.
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Re: How are we going to conduct wars
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2016, 01:50:21 am »
It's a forum hosting service, like proboards, except they run smf.  ;D  Also happens to be owned by the same guy who made most of the mods we used on the old forum, so they come installed.  ;D ;D Downside, they don't let you install mods or themes but they do let you tinker with CSS.
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Re: How are we going to conduct wars
« Reply #29 on: January 07, 2016, 01:50:51 am »
Forgot this, link at bottom of forum.
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