Nova Historiae
GENERAL DISCUSSION => General => Topic started by: Fascist States of America on January 11, 2016, 05:49:22 pm
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbqCquDl4k4
Just found this, made me cry. I despise people who idiotically claim it was a conspiracy against the American people.
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Also, to all those fools out there; Jet fuel is made of gas, gas can get to very extreme heat levels when burning, so, yes jet fuel can melt steel.
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Jet fuel doesn't melt steel. It does however weaken it and once one floor got weakened everything above it pancaked. The internal support and many other supports were destroyed when the planes impacted.
I highly reccomend you read the 9/11 Commission Report or read about the event on the National 9/11 Memorial Museum Website. That's where all the official infomartion is.
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President Bush is right, I probably will never forget what happened that day.
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Jet fuel doesn't melt steel. It does however weaken it and once one floor got weakened everything above it pancaked.
I second that. Steel often melts at 1370 degrees Celsius. And the temp of the fuel is about 1,500 degrees Celsius (Correct me if im wrong)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbqCquDl4k4
Just found this, made me cry. I despise people who idiotically claim it was a conspiracy against the American people.
The War on Terror was and is a expensive endeavour that ultimately ruined many countries. The roughly 1.6 trillion spent by the US hasn't shown much reward apart from a rising debt and deficit.
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Jet fuel doesn't melt steel. It does however weaken it and once one floor got weakened everything above it pancaked.
I second that. Steel often melts at 1370 degrees Celsius. And the temp of the fuel is about 1,500 degrees Celsius (Correct me if im wrong)
Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F).
(lazy to convert to Celsius)
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Also, to all those fools out there; Jet fuel is made of gas, gas can get to very extreme heat levels when burning, so, yes jet fuel can melt steel.
Jet fuel is made of Kerosene, usually pure kerosene.
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Jet fuel is made of Kerosene, usually pure kerosene.
Not really, Jet Fuel veries heavily on the engine and its roll, for instance in a 2cnd Generation jet like the F9 There is watter and methynole mixed with petrol. some planes have multiple tanks filled with different fuels to be used in emergancies (These are mostly combat aircraft though)
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President Bush is right, I probably will never forget what happened that day.
I once went through the entire day of 9/11 without remembering it was 9/11 until around 9:00 that night when my friend texted me about it.
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Jet fuel is made of Kerosene, usually pure kerosene.
Not really, Jet Fuel veries heavily on the engine and its roll, for instance in a 2cnd Generation jet like the F9 There is watter and methynole mixed with petrol. some planes have multiple tanks filled with different fuels to be used in emergancies (These are mostly combat aircraft though)
Gavin, im talking about civilian jet fuel. I know the military has different sorts of jet fuels most common of which are kerosene based fuels.
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Jet Fuel has changed a lot since the F9.
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Jet Fuel has changed a lot since the F9.
I bring up the F9 because i know that plane better than any other.
Gavin, im talking about civilian jet fuel. I know the military has different sorts of jet fuels most common of which are kerosene based fuels.
and im talking about all jet fuel, the military is simply an extreme example, most civilian jets use mixtures too, either for cost reasons, or to reduce stress on the aircraft's engine.
Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F.
Most jet fuel*
, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F)
Does not need too, the plane smashing into the building creats a **** ton of heat and realeses a **** ton of energy too, the burning just weakens the steal, also, we dont even know what grade steel these towers where built with, as a son of a contractor, i can say almost none of these buildings meet code.
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Also a note about the video, (Please not i am NOT a bush supporter) So many people claim the terrorists have not, or can not win, but they did. Terrorism is not to kill people its to scare them and cause change, this happened. The real loss at 9/11 was not the dead (Not forgetting them, they are tragic too) but the freedoms we lost in the acts that followed (Looking at you patriot act).
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Gavin a quick google search will give you the grades of steel used in the Twin Towers.
http://science.howstuffworks.com/engineering/structural/grade-of-steel-used-in-world-trade-center.htm
The NYC Department of Buildings keeps and kept decent records on all buildings. Investigators were able to find the impact steel of both towers because of Department of Building records of the buildings. For governmentallly funded buildings records are extremely meticulous.
Most jet fuel is still kerosene based...im not denying there are mixtures.
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Most jet fuel is still kerosene based...
Based is a key word there.
Gavin a quick google search will give you the grades of steel used in the Twin Towers. The NYC Department of Buildings keeps and kept decent records on all buildings. Investigators were able to find the impact steel of both towers because of Department of Building records of the buildings. For governmentallly funded buildings records are extremely meticulous.
It is highly unlikely the grade was consitant, corruption runs deep with these things, usally only certain areas actaully meet the code, and a lot of areas are completely random, even if you try to meet code it is highly likely your suppliers with these beams is inconsitant, its just the way this stuff works.
(Sources, my family does this **** for a living)
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Ok? Is there a point?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbqCquDl4k4
Just found this, made me cry. I despise people who idiotically claim it was a conspiracy against the American people.
The War on Terror was and is a expensive endeavour that ultimately ruined many countries. The roughly 1.6 trillion spent by the US hasn't shown much reward apart from a rising debt and deficit.
It may have been expensive and dragged out, but I still applaud that he wanted to avenge the deaths of those innocents.
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[the urge of posting some dank memes is strong]
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XD True
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbqCquDl4k4
Just found this, made me cry. I despise people who idiotically claim it was a conspiracy against the American people.
The War on Terror was and is a expensive endeavour that ultimately ruined many countries. The roughly 1.6 trillion spent by the US hasn't shown much reward apart from a rising debt and deficit.
It may have been expensive and dragged out, but I still applaud that he wanted to avenge the deaths of those innocents.
(http://s3media.247sports.com/Uploads/Assets/122/187/1187122.gif)
[the urge of posting some dank memes is strong]
[The dank is strong with you. USE THE DANK.]
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Luger, I am literally laughing on my side, I fell out of my chair! 8) :o
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I do not mean to offend anyone. I just had a dank explosion of 9/11 memes
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbqCquDl4k4
Just found this, made me cry. I despise people who idiotically claim it was a conspiracy against the American people.
The War on Terror was and is a expensive endeavour that ultimately ruined many countries. The roughly 1.6 trillion spent by the US hasn't shown much reward apart from a rising debt and deficit.
It may have been expensive and dragged out, but I still applaud that he wanted to avenge the deaths of those innocents.
How many more civilians have to be killed by our War on Terror to avenge the victims of 9/11? Is it just to kill civilians to avenge the deaths of our civilians?
2,977 civilians =/= 165,437 civilians (2nd number underestimated)
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I never said those killed Middle Eastern civilians were justified either. War is terrible, and sometimes a nation needs to show it means business. Thank you, and gute nacht! 8)
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What good does war do? Create more enemies and fear for a country at the expense of civilians?
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Besides, this war is only fueling terrorism.
Like the American government.
8)
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[Oh Esterfort, could you delete some of your emails, I need to send you something!!]
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[Oh Esterfort, could you delete some of your emails, I need to send you something!!]
Shoot